Tilda Swinton can go fuck herself.

In an interview with Variety in which she praises Berlin's decision to have "genderless" awards, she basically says that anyone who calls themselves definitively homosexual is "sad."

daughter of an aristocrat, she literally grew up in a castle. I’m so glad to have her opinion on my sexual orientation

It's easy for an androgynous looking person to say this.

Ultra-wokes hate gays and lesbians. They're a lot like Trump IMHO. "A total lesbian? Sad!"

She's had the luxury of being whatever she had a whim to be, and be well supported regardless. She thinks she's so special because she's committed to nothing.

This person is half-caste Martian.

Fuck you, Tilda. No longer will you be my fag hag.

She and J.K.Rowling should cage-fight.

I thought she was lovely in Snowpiercer.

I am actually a bit scared that large parts of the liberal left (which I am part of) are drifting away into this sci-fi fairytale land, hence uprooting us from any progress we have made.

Don't you just love Fluidity? So glamorous, so chic, so unchained by labels so "don't you just adore Ziggy Stardust Bowie?"

Really, anything else bores me and makes me a little sad. Pouty! That's how I feel about it. Pouty!

So be free, but my way, please. No, not yours - Who do you think you are?

[quote] I thought she was lovely in Snowpiercer

Completely unrelated to the original topic but I have to write a 5 page film analysis of this movie and I don’t wanna.

Troll thread.

OP cherry picked words and pieced them together for a misleading thread title.

Nothing to see here.

[quote]OP cherry picked words and pieced them together for a misleading thread title.

Which words were cherry picked in "Tilda Swinton can go fuck herself"?

[quote] she basically says that anyone who calls themselves definitively homosexual is "sad."

Why did you say 'basically' as opposed to her full and actual quote? So, basically, your op is your opinion.

[quote] Which words were cherry picked in "Tilda Swinton can go fuck herself"?

Well, basically, it's my opinion.

She's too dumb to realize erasing gender is erasing women. Look at the only people doing it...MEN!

Well R15, here is the quote from the article:

[quote]"It just makes me sad to call yourself definitively heterosexual, definitively homosexual, definitively male, definitively female. It makes me want to go to sleep. So bravo, Berlin.”

Not PRECISELY what OP wrote but SUBSTANTIVELY accurate. Nothing wrong in pointing out that her words were different, yet not sufficiently at odds to hop on the Fake news! LIES! Putting words in her mouth! Thread closed!

It's not even a misleading thread title.

Fuck you, Tilda! If the movie industry never comes back perhaps it will be in the best interest of culture and society. They're all too crazy. They no longer reflect any semblance of "universal human experience" - they're a fringe tribe of privileged weirdos. And they're anti-science in that human biology hasn't altered in the past decade as they seem to think. The only thing that's changed is that social media has driven large numbers of people crazy.

Yeah, OP is putting her own spin on what Tilda actually said, which was a bold and groundbreaking announcement that she didn’t, like, believe in labels. I love watching her on screen but she sounds completely unbearable.

Overall, this thread is an effort to gin up hatred for Tilda over something she didn't even actually say. Yet another alt-right attempt at sowing division and stoking outrage.

The thread ought to be closed.

[quote] OP cherry picked words and pieced them together for a misleading thread title.

Fuck you.

[quote] Overall, this thread is an effort to gin up hatred for Tilda over something she didn't even actually say. Yet another alt-right attempt at sowing division and stoking outrage.

And especially fuck you. The ONLY thing I did was leave out the heterosexual part because it doesn't concern me. She said exactly what I said she said and if you can't see that, then you're part of the problem. I stand by my post.

Oh dear, our newest troll, Poisoned Dragon.

Go away troll. You are infecting too many threads here.

This "gender is a social construct" nonsense is an aspect of the new radical chic. Otherwise, why would "gender-neutral" children be so much more prevalent with wealthy celebrities and other elites than the general population, who seem to have no particular problem in differentiating between boys and girls (in most instances)? I live in L.A. and I can't help but imagine what this upscale gender confusion must look like to Latino families, one of the few remaining groups who seem to produce normal, healthy kids.

R24 Don't feed the troll, Poisoned Dragon. He has started trolling dozens of threads here and it's best to block it.

And, btw, I have seen Tilda on multiple occasions, when she was filming in the Hudson Valley. IRL, she does not look androgynous at all. She looks like a tall, pale, attractive woman. No one would think she was not a woman.

[R27] Incapable of winning an argument so reverts to Junior High School tactics. Shun him! Block him! LOL!

[R27] You'll feel better once your tits grow.

It just really makes me mad. What if some kid reads that who's figuring out he's gay? And maybe he idolizes Tilda. She's told him that him being gay makes her sad. What the fuck kind of nonsense is that? What a cunt.

[quote] The thread ought to be closed.

Since you're calling for censorship, fine. I'll censor you instead.

BLOCKED.

She did give a pretentious and alienating interview, that's for sure.

I don't know that many people would agree that having an explicit sexual orientation and embracing it, label and all, is "sad".

[quote] Overall, this thread is an effort to gin up hatred for Tilda over something she didn't even actually say. Yet another alt-right attempt at sowing division and stoking outrage.

R23 gets it.

[quote] The ONLY thing I did was leave out the heterosexual part because it doesn't concern me.

That alone proves you're a troll. It also proves your quote was edited and turning it in to your opinion. You said "because it didnt concern me" which makes an opinion.

[quote] She said exactly what I said she said and if you can't see that, then you're part of the problem.

No, she didn't. No, I'm not.

[quote] I stand by my post.

So this is the sword you want to fall on? Go ahead.

[quote] Since you're calling for censorship, fine. I'll censor you instead. BLOCKED.

Oh, FFS, I wish, R32. None of the troll cohort (the ones responsible for stacking up to 80 WWs on their own posts) ever really block anyone. They just take more runs at the object of their hatred with sock accounts. Like you.

I hate this ugly bitch tilda swinton

Just seeing her face makes me feel ill

[R32] I think this pig [R35] thinks some pigs are more equal than others. She's quite paranoid. Now you and I are conspiring together to undermine her moral authority, elect Trump and keep women barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. God, we're evil!

[quote]God, we're evil!

I tend to believe people when they say this.

'It makes me sad to call yourself definitively heterosexual, definitively homosexual, definitively male, definitively female'

Just so it appears again in this thread.

I've always preferred my Tilda Swinton's sad.

She can fuck herself with her own shenis

[quote] “It just makes me sad to call yourself definitively heterosexual, definitively homosexual, definitively male, definitively female. It makes me want to go to sleep. So bravo, Berlin.”

R39, I posted the full quote. You, again, edited her words and want pass it off as her quote.

Thanks for helping me show that you are liar I said you were.

[quote]Just so it appears again in this thread.

It needs to, R39, so that posters can see that she didn't say anything like what the OP claims. But your "quote" isn't what she said. It's another tendentious paraphrase.

She didn't say that homosexuals are "sad"; she said that she was sad at the compartmentalization of the labels. While her point of view is a bit removed from most everyone else's, it's not worth organizing a stoning party.

So paid trolls - alt-righters, incels, 4channers, Russians, etc - just hang it up.

Methinks PoisonedDragon is pulling a Janbot and posting under two personas.

Trolls aren't paid to think, R44. And your version of "I know you are, but what am I?" is pretty lame.

You're not going to persuade real DL posters to glom onto the Tilda Swinton stoning party. You'll have to float this one through trollsocks alone.

yes, awkward way to say "no labels."

@r42 and r43, is everything OK at home for you two?

...and BTW, Tilda is terrific in the new David Copperfield movie.

Why call Tulsa’s childhood home a castle? Let’s call it a shanty. Why call Tilda’d father “Lord” lets call him “Lady!”

you can see the old house and additions. jelly!

This is the kind of speak bi lady housewives use on young pretty girls to get them in bed. Then they go home to their husbands.

A lot of bisexuals project their sexualities onto other people. they can't conceive of only being attracted to one gender so they think everyone who says they only like one gender is lying

[quote] @[R42] and [R43], is everything OK at home for you two?

Who said I was home? I'm staring in your kitchen window.

Its just her opinion FFS.. Doesn't mean you have to start eating pussy. RELAX

R49

David Copperfield played by an Indian Hindu. Betsey Trotwood played by a half-caste Martian.

"It just makes me sad to call yourself definitively heterosexual, definitively homosexual, definitively male, definitively female. It makes me want to go to sleep. So bravo, Berlin.”

I'm definitively homosexual and she thinks that's sad. Well, yeah Tilda, go fuck yourself.

Now, that's her opinion, she's entitled to it and I don't believe in canceling people and all that bullshit. But the fact she believes people who are firm in their sexuality are sad, leads me to believe she's a bigot.

correction: "But the fact people who are firm in their sexuality make her sad"

I used to love her, but she's making me hate her now.

From R59

[quote] But the fact she believes people who are firm in their sexuality are sad, leads me to believe she's a bigot.

Tilda Swinton quote from article

[quote] "It just makes me sad to call yourself definitively heterosexual, definitively homosexual, definitively male, definitively female. It makes me want to go to sleep. So bravo, Berlin.”

"It just makes me sad..."

You're a troll, R59.

R31 What kid is going to idolize Tilda, for godssakes? She's close to 60! Her youngest fans must be in their 30s.

For the idiot at R62 please note my correction at R60.

The troll is you.

Homosexuals who are firm in their sexuality make Tilda Swinton sad.

Yep, she's a bigot.

And so is R62 for defending her.

OP is right. There is no wiggle room here.

She comes from one of the oldest and most prominent aristocratic families in England.

She has had the privilege of doing whatever the fuck she wants and using her connections and family standing.

Her opinion on people being exclusively gay is such a bullshit statement to make - trying so hard to be so fluid, so different, so interesting.

Bitch - you are trying to hard at this - try giving away all your money and working for a living instead.

[quote] definitively male, definitively female

You wouldn’t have birthed your two sprogs if you weren’t ‘definitely female‘ dear.

I don't know which is more pathetic: this physical embodiment of a skin walker feeling "sad" that "definitively gay" people exist or the doormat white knights in this thread trying and failing to defend her.

I'd call you low-life creature, if it cheers you up, OP.

It makes me want to go to sleep.

Fuck you, twee bitch.

"Get her!" We don't really know why, but GET HER!

We'll spin her words which ever way we have to as long as it fits our agenda of lies and hate.

In His love and footsteps, Christian Right

[quote] “It just makes [italic] me [/italic] sad to call yourself definitively heterosexual, . . .”

OP would have a hard time with 70% of Kinsey too.

[quote] “It just makes [italic] me [/italic] sad to call yourself definitively heterosexual, . . .”

OP would have a hard time with 70% of Kinsey too.

It just makes me sad to call yourself definitively black. It makes me want to go to sleep.

R76 - well, I think we can all agree, she is definitively 100% white.

Ugh. For the last time, I don't need to be told what I am or should like. I like 100% real cock attached to a 100% real man. I'm never going to want a "man" who has a vagina.

I love Tilda, but she’s always struck me as a closet case (yes, they exist among liberal/arty communities). This statement does nothing to change my mind.

I’ve always like Tilda Swinton, both her acting and her movie choices. I think it’s unfortunate that she didn’t think of the impact of her words before uttering them. At the same time, I don’t want to blow her words out of proportion. What this episode reminds me, though, is that the continuing erosion of gay male life/identity/community just makes me sad. Yes, I’m semi-ancient and I suppose if I were 22 I wouldn’t miss what I’d never known. But I miss what we had, for example in the 1970s and ‘80s. Living online, while I do it almost as much as any youngster, seems like a pale imitation of living IRL.

R77 Are you sure about that? It's all about identity nowadays. Just identify as whatever you want, it's all a spectrum!

I DID like Tilda Swindon in her role as “Jadis.”

^ She's got some kind of eye-disease or myxomatosis.

Just a luvvie saying luvvie things. "Luvvies gonna luvvie."

Really, no mention of her work with Derek Jarman or her campaign to save his house?

Tilda has quite the stench of sanctimony, judgment, condescension.

What makes me sad is how many gays believe this self-loathing drivel.

British dykes are the worst.

Swinton is a card carrying member of the jet set caviar gauche who joined the Communist Party at Cambridge. She read the Manifesto in the evenings after ski in Klosters. She swallowed Tariq Ali's loads.

Sounds like my kind of gal, R90.

She has all the qualities of a dehydrated ferret. Glad I never invested any of my time in this untalented dingle of nepotism.

If my sexuality upsets you so much Tilda, then you're more than welcome to drown your sorrows in well-priced ice cream.

Women are constantly trying to explain gay men’s sexuality to us.

There is nothing sad about the fact I would rather look at cats being strangled than a vag.

[quote] you're more than welcome to drown your sorrows in well-priced ice cream.

Such depth and insight, R92. I guess you told her. Now go back to organizing your rummage sale. Be prepared to lower the price of that air hockey table.

[R92] Ironic how woke liberalism has circled back around to a new kind of bigotry. I still consider myself a liberal in the classic sense but "woke" is a fungible, amorphous form of radicalism that has nothing to do with classic liberalism and its roots in the Enlightenment. You can only undermine society so much before you destroy it and we're getting to that point. What terrible dragons exit beyond the event horizon?

Women don’t have a sexuality, for the most part; and so don’t understand men’s.

Does she really deserve this treatment?

Maybe Tilda should remake IT'S PAT!

LOL Did I hit a nerve, R94?

[quote] [R31] What kid is going to idolize Tilda, for godssakes? She's close to 60! Her youngest fans must be in their 30s.

You do know she's been in Doctor Strange, The Avengers series and the Chronicles of Narnia series, yes? I'm sure she has plenty of fans well under the age of 30.

I kinda love her insanely pretentious, excessively wordy interview responses.

Pity. She was captivating and radiant in EDWARD II, and in ORLANDO.

^ Those two movies are getting on to be half a century ago.

Derek Jarman's stuff was painful. They would be unbearable without the nudity.

I loved that one where she swims in Lake Tahoe.

R100 People under 30 don't know who she is. She received attention from the younger crowd for about a month years ago with the hilarious twitter parody account where she was portrayed as some bizarre alien creature.